Christmas Poaching

[Disclaimer: The author is fully aware that for most people Christmas carries secular not religious significance]

Ours being a multicultural (in the good way) society, one can expect to run across folks who hold different beliefs or what not. There are Muslims and Jews who are given the opportunity to take time off work, sometimes even paid to do so, to observe their respective holy days.   After all, it’s all about the vinyl folks,

coexist

Fine and good, but it’s always been a curiosity that these same good people accept, without grumbling or complaining, the paid time off their company gives for Christmas.

How does that work? It’s probably the same rationale that grants smokers breaks so they can asphalt their lungs on company time…

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3 Responses to Christmas Poaching

  1. Zaphod says:

    Firstly, very few non-Christians get paid during their day off.

    Secondly, it’s not that they don’t want to work and get paid on Christmas and Easter, it’s that they’re company is closed and won’t let them work on Christmas and Easter.

  2. Sick of Racists says:

    By your reasoning anyone who takes holidays but doesn’t believe in the related event is a thief?

    I didn’t say that you did. My inquiry was mainly directed at people who take their own religious holidays (Yom Kippur, etc) then take say, Good Friday off. By this rationale, Christians should be allowed to take Yom Kippur off as well. Nowhere am I insinuating that anyone is stealing anything.

    May I ask then, which event are we meant to believe in: The Christian Christmas or the original Roman winter solstice? Since its summer here when stupid-commercial-festival-of-debt-creating happens, I guess that rules out the winter one, but evidence points to this not being the time of the birth of the Christian messiah either. So, everyone who takes this holiday is actually stealing a day from their employers.

    Thanks for the history lesson, but you chose to ignore the disclaimer at the beginning of the post. Must be nice to live in NZ, I’ve always wanted to visit.

    I tend to work through this period simply because everyone else is on holiday and the office is a nice quiet place where I can get a lot done. When most people go back to work I take my break then, no crowds and no queues.

    As for ‘poaching’ this break, go complain to your government representative since it’s a public holiday; tell him you want to make all non-Christians work on Christmas day and over Easter and see what kind of response you get. You never know, he may suggest a good starching agent for your clan outfit

    As I pointed out, a better “complaint” would be for Christians to be given the chance to take off non-Christian holidays. See my smoker analogy, non-smokers should also be given ‘smoking’ breaks where they get to go outside and chill for 5 minutes.

    Before throwing out racist blasts (suggesting that I own a clan outfit) please bother to ask the ethnicity of the person you are blasting so as to determine if your insult is even apropos. I’m Mexican so I most definitely don’t own a “clan outfit”. If this post seems racist to you then you, my Kiwi friend, have a strange, not to mention broad definition of “racism”.

  3. Still Sick of Racists says:

    “I didn’t say that you did. My inquiry was mainly directed at people who take their own religious holidays (Yom Kippur, etc) then take say, Good Friday off.”
    You called it poaching, which is a type of theft. That’s a mighty fine line you are back pedalling across.

    That’s not the only definition of poaching (from dictionary.com): any encroachment on another’s property, rights, ideas, or the like.

    You use religious holidays as an example, but this isn’t a religious issue. Try to consider from an employer’s point of view the nightmare this would cause, not to mention legislators and the ensuing legal battle for Jedi religious days etc.

    Fine, but then Christians and Muslims should be given Yom Kippur off, or on a lesser scale non-smokers shouldn’t be deprived of breaks simply b/c they don’t smoke. I’m just saying… I don’t expect this to become reality though.

    “Thanks for the history lesson, but you chose to ignore the disclaimer at the beginning of the post. Must be nice to live in NZ, I’ve always wanted to visit.”
    You are welcome, but incorrect; this is not a history lesson. I was trying to show that the excuse (and that’s all it is) for a “holy-day” is wafer thin at best. As for visiting NZ, come over, it’s a bit cold for my tastes but I am only on a working vacation.
    As for the disclaimer, that is like saying “I’m not racist, but hate how all white people drive Audi’s”. Even if they did, the disclaimer is moot because the comment IS racist and all the disclaimers in the world won’t validate your point.

    Well yeah now Christmas has degenerated into a holy day for consumerism, no argument there

    “As I pointed out, a better “complaint” would be for Christians to be given the chance to take off non-Christian holidays. See my smoker analogy”
    See point one for the Jedi holiday issue, and then add every other idiot and his spaghetti monster to the mix. Now add a poorly designed employment law structure to that and you have “what religion are you?” as a question on job interviews and discrimination lawyers buying private islands from the settlements. As for your analogy, for you next job I suggest you state you are a non-smoker, but want to take smoking breaks so you can go chill for 5. See how that works out for you.

    Well if smokers get to do it (and it was a nice perk back when I smoked) why can’t non-smokers?

    “Before throwing out racist blasts (suggesting that I own a clan outfit) please bother to ask the ethnicity of the person…to determine if your insult is even apropos”
    Oh, please. As if ethnicity of a person excludes them from being racist. You could be a black Jew from Poland with English-German parents who grew up in France before serving in the Chinese army and still be racist.

    No but being Mexican excludes one from being a member of the klan. You suggesting that I am is ridiculous.

    “If this post seems racist to you then you, my Kiwi friend, have a strange, not to mention broad definition of “racism””
    Perhaps religionist would have been better, but that is not a real word and this sort of discrimination is still lumped under racism.

    So my shot at smokers and their free breaks would be racism as well? That is absurd.

    Since the religions and the days they deem sacred are not to your personal and secular liking (did you grow up in Israel or India or China or anywhere else where Christianity is not the majority? No? Well you did want me to check before I made assumptions) yet you are fine with the accepted LOCAL norm, this shows discrimination. Imagine the reverse of this article: “Christians want a day off in December, but take a coffee break while we pray at 3pm! Outrageous!”

    Let’s take Israel and extrapolate what goes on here in the States. A Christian in Israel would get request and probably get Christmas and Good Friday off, and then would he be allowed to take Yom Kippur off, assuming Yom Kippur is a national holiday? Even then I’d find it strange that a Christian would want Yom Kippur off.

    As for the “Kiwi” thing, I believe your words were “please bother to ask the ethnicity of the person”

    Yeah my bad, you have apologies, I stand corrected.

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