Pastore takes on Liberals’ Take on the Bible

Frank Pastore writes a weekly column over at conservative site, He usually writes more theologically inclined columns than his colleagues at said website. This week’s offering is no exception:
“Exposing How Liberals Misread the Bible”

Pastore refers to theological liberals not political liberals. Though to be sure, theological liberals usually are political liberals, though not always. Remember, there are no absolutes, except for the absolute fact that there are no absolutes 😉

A sample,

Edgar’s primary argument comes down to this. He said, “The Bible mentions abortion not once, homosexuality only twice, and poverty or peace more than two thousand times. Yet somehow abortion and homosexuality have become the litmus test of faith in public life today.”

But here’s how to really expose how liberals misread the Bible. Ask them this question:

If the Bible is not the inerrant Word of God, then why should we assume that God cares more about one group of merely human words over another group of merely human words simply because they occur more frequently in the text?

You see, it all comes down to one’s view of inerrancy.

I have spoken with some theological liberals and gone back and forth with them regarding their views of God, His Word, and Jesus. Nicci, who commented in the post about Joel Osteen, would probably qualify as a liberal (theological). Her apparent reliance on experience as well as her emotion-laden response is not surprising given the existentialist bent of the liberal view.

Some liberals which I have spoken to are able to calmly and rationally defend their views, and we can ask for nothing more. How can there be dialogue when unchecked emotionalism enters into a discussion?

A couple of things to remember when engaging liberals is to speak the truth in love, as we are commanded to in Scripture. Also, we must be convinced ourselves that it is not our clever arguments which will transform minds, hearts and souls but rather this falls upon the convicting work of the Holy Spirit.


6 Responses to Pastore takes on Liberals’ Take on the Bible

  1. Zeus Almighty says:

    Thanks for the link to those zealots. I thought it funny that they charged those they disagree with communists. By the way the apostles were communists
    acts 2:30 and they begane selling their proerty and possesinsand were sharing them with all as anyone might have need.

  2. Laz says:

    It is very easy to throw around incendiary words like “zealots”. Please keep in mind that we are all zealous for something or another.

    When the word “zealot” is used derogatorily by someone, it is usually true that the problem does not lie with zealotry but with what that “zealot” is zealous about. If one does not believe in God it is easy to identify those who do as “zealots”, but not so easy to see that the atheist is also zealous but not about God. Of course, even atheists can be zealous for God, especially when they are trying (LOL) to disprove his existence.

    If the “zealots” you refer to are the folks at Townhall, especially Frank Pastore, I don’t know what you’re talking about here,

    I thought it funny that they charged those they disagree with communists

    Nowhere in Pastore’s column did he use the word “communists”. A more careful read might be of some use.

    By the way the apostles were communists
    acts 2:30 and they begane selling their proerty and possesinsand were sharing them with all as anyone might have need.

    No the apostles were not communists and I think you refer to Acts 2:44-45,

    And all those who had believed were together and had all things in common; and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need.

    This is not communism, this is community. As Professor Mark Moore puts it,

    Communism = “What is yours is mine, and I’ll take it”
    Community = “What is yours is mine, and I’ll give it”

    There is huge difference. We can go back and forth discussing that “Communism” in theory is what Moore calls “community” but every attempt to install communism has resulted in the above definition, ask the Russian, the Chinese, the North Korean, the Cuban, etc.

  3. osipov says:

    “Zeus Almighty” – AGREE!

    “LAZ” – your definition of community and communism are inaccurate. We – in the U.S. have been taught this right-wing propaganda.

  4. Laz says:

    Well it’s not my definition (but I do happen to agree with Moore).

    Well, what is the accurate definition?

  5. Neil Aquino says:

    If you had seen Frank Pastore pitch for the Cincinnati Reds as many times as I did you would feel that nothing he does could possibly be on target.

  6. Laz says:

    A cursory look at Pastore’s Major League Stats (48-58, 4.29 ERA) reveals his less than average pitching ability. Truth be told, stats don’t always reflect the effectiveness of a pitcher, but since you saw the man pitch, I’ll take your word for it.

    Of course, nowadays pitchers with his stats get multi-million contracts but that is another topic for another day.

    Be careful not to judge Pastore’s current work using an ad hominem argument.

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