Miami Beach Rabbi puts $1.8 Million Synagogue Seats on eBay

Couldn’t believe this story coming out of Miami Beach,
“2 Comfy Synagogue Seats Starting At Only $1.8-Million”

According to the story, Rabbi Kliel Rose of Temple Emanu-El [if he only believed that Jesus is Emanu-El] has put up 2 front row seats in his synagogue on eBay for a cool $1.8 million. This was done to raise money for the synagogue.

Rabbi Rose jokingly comments on the view from said seats, “You’re closest to the rabbi, so how could you go wrong?”

He then clarifies his position,

All joking aside, I think the view has very little to do with me. I think the view is the opportunity to feel touched by what we do as people and ideally it’s to feel the presence of God.

I don’t recall anywhere in the Old Testament (the Hebrew Scriptures) where it says that there exists a seat (or 2) in the synagogue/temple for ideally feeling the presence of God. I concede that the synagogue had not yet become the center of Jewish religious activity by the time the OT was completed.

This particular rabbi’s actions (the story mentions other rabbis who disagree with him) bring to mind, and might I add, clarify what Jesus was spoke of here,

Woe to you Pharisees! For you love the chief seats in the synagogues and the respectful greetings in the market places. — Luke 11:43

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19 Responses to Miami Beach Rabbi puts $1.8 Million Synagogue Seats on eBay

  1. danny bee says:

    so true: ”Has he considered they are disconnected because of schemes such as this?”

    But you know what, there is no God, the Jews were wrong, and the Christians picked up the wrong idea from them, and here are stuck with supernatural superstitions cults. Sigh.

    But this was a collassal stupid jackass idea that will not gain much good PR for Jews and those old stereotypes about money! One wonders what that rabbi was smoking, schmuck!

  2. danny bee says:

    by the way, i knew when i saw this story in the media today, that it would bring out the antisemities around the world, like you sir, who use stories like this to show your superiroty to the OT Jews…but you know, there is no GOd, no Jesus, no Messiah, so kvetch all you want, you be very mistaken about reality…..swallow that one! re:

    your pharisess edcerpt. jeez, give the jews a break, it was ONE rabbi. a dumb one at that. you gonna hang all the Jews again because of that./? yes, look on the blogs, there are hundreds saying same as you,. sad day for Xianity!

  3. Laz says:

    Danny,
    I’m not an anti-semite and most definitely do no think myself superior to anyone, much less OT Jews. Of course, you can choose to believe otherwise, and if so, I’ll leave you to your “superstitions”, including your belief that “there is no God.” Not to mention your denial that Jesus existed, but I suppose you are entitled to your illusions, God has granted us that much.

    You are correct it was ONE rabbi, just as Jesus words to the Pharisees was to one group of people, not to all Jews. After all, Jesus is a Jew as were His apostles so He was not calling out all Jews. Sorry you didn’t catch that. For you to say that I’m “going to hang all the Jews” is simply irresponsible and terribly shortsighted, but not much can be expected when one makes judgments, especially from emotionalism.

    God chose Israel, I would be remiss to “hang all the Jews”, if I were doing that, I might as well “hang” God as well, who in His Sovereignty chose Israel to bring the message of His Salvation to the Gentiles. The chosen were chosen for the sake of the unchosen.

    I acknowledge that so-called (thanks Neil) Christians have persecuted (even violently) Jews throughout history, and this deeply saddens me. I wish it were otherwise.

    I forgot who said this, but he is dead on:

    How odd of God to chose the Jews, but not so odd as those who choose the Jewish God and spurn the Jews

    Thanks for your readership and input.

  4. danny bee says:

    Laz,
    Your points well taken and my apologies to you if my hasty words hurt you and were misunderstood. It just seemed you were using this news story to bang your drum for Christian triumphalism again, and of course, you have a right to do that, but now that i read your response i see that you are really a gentleman and a scholar and my hats off to you, not my yamulke, i don’t wear one, my French cap, and cheers to you, long may you prosper and be in good health…and to both us….our illusions yes! I take it back, there is a God, of course, and Jesus was the Messiah for those who insist on that, but you should know that the world is slowly realizing the Xianity is not the one supreme and superior religion and that it is not the only way to get into heaven. So for our illusions, those you inherited and those i did, let’s put our heads together, sir, and pray. Global warming is what we need to worry about, not some silly rabbi in Florida. SMILE

  5. Laz says:

    Danny,
    As for what the world is slowly realizing about Christianity, well my friend, one way or the other we shall see.

    Christianity, if true and I believe it is, has no choice but to be exclusive, as far as Jesus is concerned (see John 14:6). Understand that either Jesus is telling the truth or He isn’t. Of course, if one believes He is Messiah, one must accept that not only is He telling the truth, He is Truth.

    One man who for half of his life persecuted the Way of Jesus, former Pharisee, Paul (Sha’ul) states,

    and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.

    No Resurrection (the proof that Jesus is Messiah), no Christianity, that’s as simple as one can put it. Of course, Paul was convinced that he encountered the Resurrected Christ on His way to Damascus. He could have been deluded , but the change in the man’s life is powerful testimony.

    In light of that I encourage you to read the “Resurrection” Page at the top of this blog.

    I would also encourage you to read a post from a few months ago, “The Atrocities of Christendom”, and I hope that it further makes clear that I’m not an anti-Semite,and that I believe that the persecution of Jews by Christians was (and unfortunately still is) a dark episode in Chruch History.

    As for global warming, this must be what you refer to

    But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

    Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,

    looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! — 2 Peter 3:10-12 (emphasis mine)

    Looking ahead to this kind of global warming, there is no need to “worry” but there does need to be an effect on our lives, as Peter (Kefa) points out above and then further down that text,

    You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness,

    but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen. — 2 Peter 3:14-18

    Thanks for the discussion.

  6. danny bee says:

    Laz, would you please stop that crap! You say “As for what the world is slowly realizing about Christianity, well my friend, one way or the other we shall see.”

    I am so sick and tired of you guys saying one way or another we shall see. It shows how brainwashed you are. It sounds like a threat, like a certainty. Laz, there is no certainty. When you die, you will finally understand that you were had, big time, by the church you grew up in. We shall see? No, YOU, dear sir, shall SEE. There’s nothing out there after THIS, so make the best of the time you got on Earth and stop being such a smart alec. I say this in a joking yet serious way, friend of God!

  7. danny bee says:

    you believe Xianity is true, but it is not. You been had. I am not going to say wake up before it is too late, because i can see the Xianity serves a good purpose in your life and that is cool. But you should know, someday, later, that it is not true. You will find that out when you take your final breath….but not until then….Still, you had a good ride and God bless you for that……

  8. danny bee says:

    one final note. i respect you good sir, and your note about understanding historical antisemitism is very good and i appreciate your insights there. you are so right, and you are a good Christian to say what you said about the history of the church, yes, in regards to persecution of Jesus’s very own people. We need more Christians like you who have seen the light on this……. God bless and persevere!

  9. danny bee says:

    so you welcome GLOBAL WARMING? please explain that to me, sir. You must be totally out of your mind if you welcome the end of the world, regardless of your religious beliefs. Can you explain that reckless comment? Al Gore wants to hear too…

  10. danny bee says:

    danny bee Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    September 11th, 2007 at 7:09 am
    i heard via grapevine that the rabbi in question feels very mortified at all the bad PR that resulted from the idea he cooked up, and is taking some time out to figure where he went wrong and how mend the trouble he caused, as the news story went nationwide and worldwide via the AP news service after the Miami Herald first reported the story. He feels very mortified and embarassed and is in damage control mode now. Happy Rosh Hashanah, Dear Yenta!

    This story was a bad day for Jews everywhere, and if you really wanna see something ugly, check out all the antisemitic blogs that have surfaced over this, saying you know what about them Jews…..oi! Rabbi Kliel, you done goofed big time. Mend you ways, sir. And apologize on your temple’s website. That would be a nice gesture….

  11. danny bee says:

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    april 2007 NYTimes story, who knew?

    QUOTE

    At Temple Emanu-El in South Beach, Rabbi Kliel Rose is striving to attract young Jews while keeping older, second- and third-generation members. The cavernous stone synagogue drew 1,200 families in the 1980s; it claims about 260 now.

    Rabbi Rose’s tactics include regular outings to South Beach bars and clubs, lectures on Kabbalah and a recent Havdalah ceremony, marking the end of Sabbath at sundown Saturday, with cocktails at Temple House. Rabbi Rose has added drums, guitar and an element of mysticism to Shabbat services. Still, to ensure the requisite 10 people for morning minyans, or prayer sessions, Temple Emanu-El teams up with the Cuban Hebrew Congregation, one of the neighborhood’s only other surviving synagogues.

    “We are truly experimenting,” said Rabbi Rose, 36, who wears an earring and was recruited from Congregation B’Nai Jeshurun, a booming unaffiliated synagogue on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. “We are trying to think outside the box.”

  12. Laz says:

    Danny,
    First of all, please read carefully what I write before launching into a emotion-laden diatribe. Notice that I said, “one way or the other…” Inherent to such a qualifier is the fact that whether what you or I may believe is true or not, we shall see. If what you believe is true, then we shall see that truly there is nothing but this life.

    If you are so sick of “us guys” making assertions, please stop and look in the mirror right after making assertions of your own. Ironically enough, while I left it open (“one way or the other we shall see…”) while clinging to my convictions, you went off and dogmatically asserted,

    there is no certainty. When you die, you will finally understand that you were had, big time, by the church you grew up in. We shall see? No, YOU, dear sir, shall SEE. There’s nothing out there after THIS, so make the best of the time you got on Earth and stop being such a smart alec. I say this in a joking yet serious way, friend of God!

    So there is no certainty except the certainty there is no certainty? Please…

    There’s no contradiction between holding steadfast that Jesus is God Incarnate and died for our sins and making the best of the time we have on this earth. Like CS Lewis put it,

    The Christians who did the most for the present world were just those who thought most of the next… Aim at Heaven and you will get earth thrown in: aim at earth and you will get neither.

    I’m guessing that he had the Apostles in mind when he wrote this. The imaginary connection between a deep faith in Christ and disregard for this world is just that, imaginary. Those who magnify it, are either ignorant of what as Christians we are commanded to do or willfully set up a Christianity of their own making.

    I welcome the end of the world, in the sense that the faith I hold will become sight, as the Lord returns. I do not welcome in the following sense: the fate of millions is not going to be joyous, though it will be a fate of their own making. As the text in 2 Peter makes clear,

    The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

    He is patient, not wishing for any to perish, unfortunately not all will “come to repentance” but this does not let us off the hook as far as sharing our faith with the rest of the world. The Apostles (especially a certain former Pharisee) understood this as well as anyone and carried the gospel to the corners of the known world. I pray the Christians today had the same fervor and concern for their fellow man.

    If this is disturbing to you, so be it. For most of my life, the cross of Christ was offensive to me, but He convinced me otherwise.

  13. danny bee says:

    Laz,
    my apolgies for my hasty notes earlier, and you are right. we shall see later. meanwhile, i am glad Jesus has entered your life and made all the difference for you, and you need that. I see that. I am glad. That is why his followers set up the teachings, to reach people like you, and God bless them and you. CS Lewis was great. I love openminded thinkers like him and you.

    other than that, all i can say in conclusion is: Jesus is important and vital for you and that’s good. But i think you also understand, in fact I am sure you do, that Jesus is not for everyone, does not have to be for everyone, only for those who need Him and find Him, but those of us who follow other spiritual paths, we are quite all right and on our own ways to grace and redemption, and as long as you recognize and respect these other paths, and their similar curative and redemptive powers, be in Islam or Judaism or Hinduism or Shinto or Buddhism or other systems, then we can agree on that much. If you don’t agree on this, then……..WTF? (smile)…..you are a good man, Laz, and nice to meet you, really!

  14. Laz says:

    Danny,
    While I do not consider myself an expert (not even an amateur one, lol) on world religions. A cursory examination of most will reveal that they are exclusive by nature. I believe that the only way to God is through Jesus, for that is what He claimed, and seeming how I’m convinced that He was God (understand that no other founder of a religion makes this claim), I must take Him at His Word. This makes Christianity exclusive, I’m sure Islam and I know that Judaism have similar conditions which make them exclusive, to be sure, though, their main figures/founders, Mohammed and Moses respectively, never claimed to be God.

    Regarding other Eastern religions, I cannot say for I’m not as familiar with them, though as far as I understand them, they do not seem to be as exclusive. Of course, try telling a devoted Hindu that reincarnation does not happen and you might find out how exclusive that belief system is. Perhaps try telling a Buddhist that non-attachment is ridiculous and nirvana is nothing but a pipe dream and you might see a similar reaction.

    I think I know where your comment is coming from, and though you most likely have good intentions, you are mistaken.

    Though I believe Christ is the only bridge humanity has to God (the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob), I will not disrespect others who hold other convictions. Christ commands us to love our neighbor, how is hating others fit into His command? It does not. Not only that but at one point in time I held other convictions, yet God had mercy on me and through His Word, opened my eyes to see my depravity before His Holiness, and made me aware that Jesus paid the penalty for that depravity and well I was born again and I stand as one redeemed from a sinful life. Understand that I’m not perfect and do not consider myself better than anyone, how can I, when God is the One did the work? How can I boast of something which was done for me?

    Back to Christ’s command to love our neighbor. Not only that but He commands us to love our enemies. However, love does not mean that I think their convictions are true however sincerely held they might be (especially when these convictions deny the divinity/existence of the One who commands me to love my neighbor). Allow me to explain myself.

    I am tolerant of others’ beliefs. Tolerant in the sense of respecting and recognizing their beliefs, but not sharing those beliefs and thus thinking them false. This is tolerance as it used to be held by the majority of folk.

    However, tolerance has come to mean something different as of late and so far as I understand it, this is what it now means: that every individual’s beliefs, values, lifestyle, and perception of truth claims are equal. There is no hierarchy of truth, for your beliefs and my beliefs are equal, and all truth is relative.

    The Bible and this definition (from which I think you’re coming from, please forgive me if I misread you) are incompatible. Any attempts to mesh the 2 is a bigger leap of faith than anything I can think of. If the Bible is truly the Word of God, then all other truth claims which contradict it cannot be true. This is simple logic.

    I hope you can discern the distinction between what tolerance used to mean and the new meaning of it, in regards to the subject at hand.

    If you’re really interested in CS Lewis, I recommend his book, Mere Christianity. He outlines the case for Christianity more eloquently than I can.

  15. danny bee says:

    no no, you are wrong, Laz. Christianity is the only religion in the world that claims superiority OVER all other religions. Yes, the other religions are exclusive in various ways, but none of them say that they are the ONLY way to salvation. Only Xianity does this, and in doing this, it makes Xianity into a very bad religion as a world religion. as a cult, sure, it’s cool.but this is 2007 Laz. get with the program…… and to make one last comment on the Florida temple trouble about temple seats read this and smile:

    ”At NoMembershipRequired.com Jews can choose from High Holiday services in over 50 cities across North America that are open to non-members. Although there is no About page on the site, I’m guessing that the goal is to make the High Holidays accessible to one and all, regardless of what they have in their bank account.”

    so yes, there IS a God, and his name is YAHWEH!

    Laz
    as for all the other religious stuff, relax. there is no God, you are barking up the wrong tree. but i in no way think you can even HEAR my words…… that’s what brainwashing does to people…..ask the former Soviets

  16. danny bee says:

    i am NOT mistaken, LAz. it is YOU who are very MISTAKEN……..now shut up and go read your Bible again!

  17. danny bee says:

    the BIBLE is NOT the word of God, are you a child? Grow up and face reality. God did not write that, people did, people with agendas. and you inherited their agenda. Godpseed

  18. Laz says:

    Danny,
    Are you aware what worldview the Soviet system held? The very same one which you hold to, mainly that there is no God.

    Are you aware that atheism is self-defeating? You assert (with certainty, I might add) something which cannot be proven? Rather something which must be held by faith.

    Unless you know everything there is to know in the universe and beyond, then you cannot say with certainty that there isn’t a God.

    What the year has to do with anything I do not know. People have held to materialist and non-materialist views since the beginning of civilization, so invoking the year we find ourselves in, is irrational.

    You are correct in saying that I cannot hear your words. Once, I spoke the words you are speaking to me now, and if I might have heard myself, my conversion might been more expedient, though I will not question God’s timing.

    As sure as you are that I cannot hear your words, I am more sure that though you might hear my words, you will, in your present state (the natural state), never understand them (I didn’t),

    But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. 1 Corinthians 2:14

    Proof of this is your statement that “Christianity is the only religion in the world that claims superiority OVER all other religions.” The fact that you mistake Truth for superiority, only affirms Sha’ul’s words to the church in Corinth. If Christianity is true, then it is exclusive. Truth is superior over Falsehood. If Christianity is Truth (I believe it is, though I’m not alone) then yes it triumphs over other truth claims which by implication are false. Read: this does not mean that those convinced to the Truth of Christianity are better than anyone else. If you cannot grasp this simple logic, then your refusal to do so is beyond the rational but actually delves into the spiritual realm.

    I like what you said about agendas, so let me guess are you free from agendas? What agenda includes telling others you disagree with to “shut up”? I don’t know if that’s an agenda to do such a thing, but I will say that children resort to this tactic when they find themselves in untenable positions.

    It is at this point that I must follow Jesus’ commands and Sha’ul’s example when faced with obstinate, hostile and abusive people. *dusting my feet*

    Good night and know that I pray and will continue to pray that people like you whose closed minds and hearts keep them from God’s mercy and grace, which are found in Christ Jesus our Lord.

  19. danny bee says:

    no, no, silly Laz,……..you see, you are antisemitic there, …..and you don’t even see it….God’s mercy and grace has already reached me in my life as a Jewish person, and since you are not Jewish, you could not reach God this way, but fortunately, the world set up a system with Jesus for you to find peace via Jesus, and that is cool. As a sinner, you can now be saved…..But don’t for a second think that the ONLY way to be saved is via Jesus, that is exactly what historical antisemitism is all about, sir, and you said you are not antisemitic. You are……your very beliefs make you one…..and i know you aint gonna change, and that;s okay, i don’t wanna change you……you got your peace….but don’t for a second go around laying your trip on those of us who do not follow Jesus….we found the peace and joy of GOD in another way, just as a good as your way……..try to UNDERSTAND this,,,,if you can understand this, cool….if you cannot, then i cry for you….. BTW, Laz, i was joking about SHUT UP……..can’t you take a joke,,,it’s like take two aspirin and call me in the morning…..joking….look, Laz, there is a GOD, but this GOD has many mansions and you need to understand that these other manions house other ways to find God and find peace…..there is NOT JUST ONE WAY VIA JEsus….that is what historical antisemtiism is all about….and from your early comment in the blog at first, the way you went after that silly rabbi in Florda, that showed me your antisemitism……..face it…….you don’t hate Jews, you don’t dislike Jews, but you are praying for Jews to receve thje love of Jesus before they die…and this is what historical antisemitism is all about, sir. …….face facts, you are a religious antisemiite, among other things you are biased about……….get it into your skull, God comes in many colors, not just one…..and I know God much better than you will ever know God, because you are confused……you were a sinner and now you are saved……..so you hold on tight to your fears….

    drop your fears and embrace reality, sir…God comes in many colors…get over your Christ-centric view of reality….that is NOT reality, that is brainwashing…….

    I pray for you, that you will be enlightened one day….but i don’t expect much….you seem very stuck in the mud…..YOUR MUD……have a good life, and be kind to your neighbors……

    and i love you, despite your brainwashed POV

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